Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/03/2002 03:30 PM House L&C

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HB 447-COM FISH & AGRICULTURE BANK INTEREST RATE                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI  announced the next matter  before the committee,                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  447, "An Act relating to the  interest rates that                                                               
may  be   charged  on  loans   by  the  Commercial   Fishing  and                                                               
Agriculture Bank."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2305                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DALE  ANDERSON,  Staff  to Representative  Eldon  Mulder,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  presented HB 447 on  behalf of Representative                                                               
Mulder, sponsor.  He explained  that HB 447 addresses an inequity                                                               
in AS  45.45 that inhibits  the ability of the  Alaska Commercial                                                               
Fishing  and  Agriculture  Bank  (CFAB)  to  serve  its  mandated                                                               
purpose  of  granting loans  for  small  businesses and  business                                                               
enterprises.   Alaska has a  usury law  that limits the  rates of                                                               
interest for  certain types of loans  - usually small loans.   He                                                               
said AS 45.45.010  defines a small loan as one  under $25,000 and                                                               
establishes a  maximum annual fixed-interest rate  for such loans                                                               
at 5  percent above  the 12th  Federal Reserve  District discount                                                               
rate.   In Alaska,  conventional lending  institutions, including                                                               
commercial  banks  and  credit  unions,  are  exempt  from  state                                                               
statutes because of federal preemption provisions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  told  the  committee  CFAB  is  the  only  Alaskan                                                               
institutional  lender subject  to  this statute,  because of  its                                                               
organizational  structure as  a  cooperative bank.    By law,  it                                                               
cannot charge  "too much  interest."   Any interest  collected in                                                               
excess of  its needs  is credited  back to  its member-borrowers.                                                               
He  said  the  commercial  fishing community  had  not  generated                                                               
significant  demand  for  small  loans in  the  past,  but  since                                                               
limited entry fishing permits began  being traded in the $20,000-                                                               
to-$40,000 range, there is a much greater need for small loans.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  told the committee  that CFAB's [being  subject] to                                                               
the existing statute, along with  the period of the lowest market                                                               
rates  in  the   last  20  years,  renders  it   unable  to  make                                                               
significant numbers  of small loans  to Alaskan residents.   This                                                               
opens the  potential for  a drastic  demographic shift  of permit                                                               
ownership.  Mr.  Anderson said the basic purpose of  HB 447 is to                                                               
ensure that CFAB is able  to continue serving its Alaskan member-                                                               
borrowers in an  efficient manner, and to  equitably compete with                                                               
other lender institutions servicing this unique market.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2219                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON pointed  out that the fiscal note  from the director                                                               
of [the  Division of Banking,  Securities &  Corporations] states                                                               
that there is  no fiscal impact on the operation  of the division                                                               
[as a result  of HB 447].   He said the legislation  comes at the                                                               
request of both the members of  CFAB and the bank examiners.  The                                                               
examiners filed a report that said  the cap, if it remains, would                                                               
have an adverse effect on the institution.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2177                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ED  CRANE, President,  Commercial  Fishing  and Agriculture  Bank                                                               
(CFAB),  testified before  the committee.   He  said the  sponsor                                                               
statement summed  up his sentiments  well.  He offered  to answer                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2147                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI requested  confirmation  that CFAB  is the  only                                                               
entity subject to the usury law.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRANE answered in the  affirmative, adding that the usury law                                                               
goes  back to  before  1949.   He  said it  has  applied to  many                                                               
institutions,  but  since   the  federal  Financial  Institutions                                                               
Reorganization  Act of  1986, credit  unions and  financial banks                                                               
"slid out from  under" [the usury law].  He  said since CFAB does                                                               
not fit  any conventional  definition of  financial institutions,                                                               
it  is [still]  subject to  the usury  law.   Mr. Crane  said the                                                               
higher  demand for  small loans  and the  low lending  rates have                                                               
created a problem with the usury law for CFAB.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2046                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI  asked how  CFAB's  structure  prevents it  from                                                               
collecting  too much  interest.   She underlined  how the  public                                                               
might perceive  that CFAB's  exemption from  the usury  law would                                                               
allow it to charge very high rates.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRANE  answered that CFAB  is mandated  by its statute  to be                                                               
structured and operated as a  cooperative.  The customers are the                                                               
owners.   The only  revenues come  from the  customers.   In each                                                               
fiscal year,  profits are shared with  the cooperative's members.                                                               
He said  those profits -  or margins -  are prorated back  to the                                                               
customer.  He gave examples of similar cooperatives.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1945                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI asked what CFAB's current interest rate is.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRANE replied  that CFAB's  rates range  between 8.5  and 11                                                               
percent.   The  past 11  years have  seen a  patronage refund  to                                                               
members in the range of 18 to 19 percent.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG asked  what the  [federal discount  rate                                                               
for District 12] is.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRANE said it is 1.75 percent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1907                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  asked how  the "new mandate"  to broaden                                                               
the scope of the bank is going.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRANE replied  that it  is  going slowly  because of  recent                                                               
economic events.   He explained that  Representative Rokeberg was                                                               
referring to a  move by the bank to expand  its business into the                                                               
realm of  tourism and resource-based  enterprises.  He  said CFAB                                                               
has  been cautious  and slow  in its  approach, but  he estimated                                                               
that  the  bank   has  made  $6  million  in   loans  to  tourism                                                               
enterprises.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked  if CFAB would be  forced to charge                                                               
no more than 6.5 percent on those loans.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRANE  clarified that the figure  would be 6.75 percent.   He                                                               
explained that part  of the problem is that  the statute mandates                                                               
a fixed rate  of interest.  He said federal  tax law demands that                                                               
CFAB treat members alike concerning patronage refunds.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1822                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRAWFORD expressed  concerns  he  had heard  from                                                               
constituents that  the bill  might compete  with the  Division of                                                               
Investments.   He  asked if  there  was anything  to [the  belief                                                               
that] CFAB  and the  Division of  Investments would  be competing                                                               
for the same market.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRANE underlined that CFAB  is a private lending institution.                                                               
He said  it lends money borrowed  from outside the state.   There                                                               
are no public  funds involved, nor is there any  public risk.  At                                                               
the end  of the year, CFAB  pays state corporate income  tax.  He                                                               
asked  Representative Crawford  if he  was really  concerned with                                                               
CFAB competing with the Division of Investments.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRAWFORD said he didn't know.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1725                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRANE said  he  didn't see  any impact  on  the Division  of                                                               
Investment's loan program.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1664                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  moved to  report HB  447 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There  being no objection, HB 447 was  moved out of House                                                               
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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